Nicolas Lirio (00:00.206) I tried to talk the clothe company, Raymake, Raymakers into doing it print on demand in Knoxville. Man, I almost didn't start the cameras. It's crazy. And they were just like, nah, no interest. They farted in your general direction. Riley Rozendaal (00:26.178) Oh, Well, I thought you were sitting in the middle because I'm sitting on the dirty chair. I'm sitting on dog's chair. Kent Boucher (00:38.158) Have you noticed Nick hasn't worn those patch pants since all the Instagram comments roasted him? He's awaiting patch number three Yeah, why don't you just do a big light blue patch going from the tip of your butt crack to the button. Although. sit down for two hours and put that Riley Rozendaal (00:59.054) You're not gonna do the splits and put your groin on Instagram though, are ya? We're not gonna vote again on this. He's only voted once. You guys don't even know how to do content well, you're just not putting your own booty on the social media If that comprises good content, then I am happy to not be good at it. That's the way I'll put that. Riley, you doing anything exciting this morning? Yeah, I just trying to emerge from what I'm calling the great swamp of 2026, is just the wild amount of rainfall we've gotten. Kent Boucher (01:40.074) And it is so humid in the shop that the concrete floors are just drenched with condensation. My grandpa's gets really excited about air conditioning units. And so we're talking about like a new space we need for air conditioning to keep our seed air condition instead of just the trailers we've been using. And which is a problem that we have because you guys who listen and order seed and we need more space to store the seed. So we were talking about that this morning and he was like, honestly, you probably need more air conditioning capacity for humidity than you do for actually keeping it cool. I was like, man, that's like a wild thing to think about. But little tidbit for anyone storing seed, it's actually more important that it stays not humid than it stays cool. That's important that it stays cool. But if I had to pick one or the other, I'm picking not human dry. And amidst all this fun humidity, I spoke with Kent yesterday and Kent was talking about going turkey hunting. Yeah, I just pulled a... Kent Boucher (02:45.454) Is that a tick? No, it's not tick. No, it was definitely a bug. It was crawling on my throat, but I'm wondering if I have ticks on me right now. I was turkey hunting this morning. Beautiful. I mean, you couldn't ask for a better day of being in the woods. Tons of Virginia bluebells in Toll Bloom. Dutchman's breaches, spring beauties, trout lilies. Well, no, guess none of them would be in C given C. Yeah, yeah. I've never seen so many blue bells though. It was just incredible. I'm not saying what... County. You don't even say what county? No, man, you hunters are wild. But Riley has had an ordeal this morning. Yeah, I was gonna say, you see any turkeys? Kent Boucher (03:32.526) I did. We, uh, we called one in, uh, and it hung up at about 50 yards, which is on the edge of shooting. And one of the guys with me was regretting that we didn't take a shot. Yeah. Um, When you take a shot and is it like deer hunting where that's it? Like that's, yeah, that's it for the evening or morning or whatever. No, not necessarily, because you can move and get on more birds. So we didn't take the shot. And I don't know, I still hold to I'm glad that I didn't. And he still thinks I wish I wish you would have because it's just kind of on the edge of of like your your pellets start spreading out so much. They lose a lot of energy. Now, if you use like expensive rounds like TSS. Then, uh, which is tungsten, uh, uh, plated pellets. Um, those go a little bit longer range and, and, and you can, I heard one of the guys hunting with us today said that he has a friend that he watched shoot a bird at 80 yards with, with some TSS, but I didn't shoot. Didn't shoot. And, uh, we tried to pursue that bird some more, like we got up and moved and, uh, he disappeared. You what you are. You didn't sh- Kent Boucher (04:56.482) So we were hearing gobbles from a couple other birds. So we went after them and my friend Caleb and I tried to double up and we both missed. was, and it was right about 50 yards. So it was so much fun though. I mean, just, we were literally belly crawling through, you know, the timber, trying to get into position for those two other birds to bushwhack them and, know, just seeing the woods come alive. There's so much multilayer rose and so much bush honeysuckle. That's about the only thing leafing out from a woody vegetation standpoint. Yeah, it's really obvious. But was a ton of fun. It's real obvious right now. I had to ask because I was walking out of the office this morning and this is the first time this has ever happened I took it as a premonition because you went turkey hunting I walked out of the office to head towards the shop and I spooked up a turkey out of the big bluestem 20 yards 20 yards got up looked at me and flew off I had to do like a triple take because at first I heard flapping and I thought you know, okay Well, maybe that's a pheasant, you know, I've seen monsters back there. Nope Really? Kent Boucher (05:56.59) For real. That is wild. Riley Rozendaal (06:08.423) Full-blown turkey. don't know. I just saw it. I saw its back as it was falling away. Was it Tom? Kent Boucher (06:15.598) Well, you know, the spot where we're burning today, may, uh, everything goes well. may show up there tomorrow morning with a, uh, with a shotgun because a turkey over a fresh burn is, is a match made. Well, it went about that direction when it flushed, so I would not be surprised if tomorrow morning they're There's a good chance, there's a good chance by the time you're listening to this, that turkey's dead. Yeah, we'll see. I thought my season was over. I thought I was getting one, one, one. But you know it. Nicolas Lirio (06:49.102) You're you're a nine year old kid who goes to NBA basketball games for the hot dogs Because you go out to hunt and you're just like man this place being out here is so cool at all your hunting buddies are like We're trying to kill this dark. Yeah, you're like, yeah, but look at those blue bills just like Talking out loud. am that way. I am that way. That's cool. The being able to fill the tag is just the, mean, if like when it comes to deer hunting, I'm pretty serious with that because that's what we eat at my house. And so I have people depending on that working out. But, the older I get, the more it is about the experience and who you're sharing it with and the setting that you're in and how you can learn more about that ecosystem and enjoy it. The older you get. And that's why you're so into it, Well, just got I mean, imagine since I'm so young by the once I am old, how much I'll be enjoying it, you know. That's fine. We should jump in. We got a big one today. We got a big one. I did some homework. Welcome back to the Prairie Farm podcast. Coffee time Wednesday. I'm your favorite host, Nicholas Lirio. Favorite co-host, Ken Boucher. Favorite co-host to the coast, Riley Rosendahl. You know, I kind of hate that Judd isn't here every week. I like kind of hate that, you know. Kent Boucher (07:47.677) boy. Riley Rozendaal (07:59.074) Howdy, howdy. Kent Boucher (08:04.078) If you're the boss, just make him show up for the pot. For an hour and ten minutes. man, I bet he would love that. He'd be like, look, if you pay for me to drive there, I'll be there every week. He loves it. totally worth it. Kent Boucher (08:18.382) drive. Especially if there was like a couple antique stores or one of those sales called estate sales like. man, yeah, just frothing at the mouth too. Can you imagine when Judd's like retired? He's gonna have one of those trucks that's got like cans and bottles piled up to just below the window level and he's just gonna fall out of his truck and hit every estate sale, every auction, every intake. He's gotta do it. Yep, every flea market. Somebody He's like the local millionaire that still wears the teenage high school t-shirts. You know what I mean? They, Kent Boucher (08:56.372) off gene shorts that are real short that are questionably short. You're painting a mental picture. I don't know if I want to... Zero desire to impress anybody at any point. It's suspenders with the jorts. man. That's we love him. He owes nothing to nobody and he doesn't need to impress anybody. Kent Boucher (09:17.774) That's right. I love you, Jed. so I didn't even talk to you about what I was talking about today, but I spent almost two hours. Well hang on is this a negative thing like is it kind of a is it a Debbie Downer topic? no, it's heavy speculation. But I mean, yeah, well, but is the topic like is the speculation like, you know, hey, there's an asteroid heading or is it or is it? Riley Rozendaal (09:39.245) You I think I actually actively tried to be more positive. Yeah, because I was thinking, you know, there's just so much us included with like, you know, doom and gloom and yeah. And the sad thing about the human condition is that's what gets you likes, follows and subscriptions probably. But controversy. wanted to say one positive thing before we hit us off. I drove from my house to the Quad City area on Friday night and turns out we should have been burning. everything that ever needed to be burned because there was there was so many Prairie burns going on between you know in that two and a half hour drive. I mean I Think if I said 30 I would if somebody set the over under at 30 I'd take the over Wow I mean it was it was wild to see and encouraging to see and how many how many places had already been burned on on the way there just I know we're still dialing in when is the right time to burn things. And so, you know, hopefully, you know, society will adjust with that too, but just the encouragement of, I mean, I just don't remember seeing that when I was a kid and CRP was already in effect then. And I'm sure it was a mandated practice back then, but I don't know how much it was enforced and I definitely don't remember seeing much of it done. so I think things are, Kent Boucher (11:10.1) are getting better in that regard and people want to be active participants in their land, which man, if you could get every landowner to care that much about their land, Iowa's landscape will be better for the next generation. so I just want to start with that super positive feeling. I was very excited about to see all that burning going on. That's awesome. I Judd and I, I mean, just think about we're products of past people making past decisions. And, based on those intelligent people, Judd and I were putting a mix together for some CRPs, like 58 species or something like that. My dad's first CRP contract he planned for someone was a Brown-headed bush clover and big bluestem. And he was the weird guy, the conservation nut at the time, right? That's how, that was the extent of conservation for the weirdest people in, you know, 1989. And, you know, now most people are really cool with the idea of more diversity. you know, they, they, so I, I agree with you. think lot of ups and downs on the graph, but In terms of the understanding in Iowa of what's needed for prairie landscape and how that affects water and other habitat and other things like that, I say we're on a big old upswing. Man, Kent, the positive voucher. I'm a big fan. Well, Yeah, absolutely. Kent Boucher (12:36.206) Well, you let me go turkey hunting you know, I'm I'm nothing but smiles the rest man, I... Remember that when the control burn goes really well today. Nothing but smiles. Yeah. I'm gonna be looking for sheds the whole time. Riley Rozendaal (12:50.062) That's true. Dude, you're gonna come back, pants totally burned off, smile as big as you could because you found a tiny two point. You're so excited. his short shorts with a two-point custom-burned for sure The, well, I think it was actually, it wasn't last year. I think it was 2024. It was, you know, dad really wasn't feeling good. You were taking way more of the brunt of harvest that year. And then you went out and sat in a deer stand for one day and came back and you were like night and day different. mean, the personality, everything. He was just like, I needed that so bad. Nicolas Lirio (13:29.26) Man, well, I, I asked the question and attempted to do the best speculation and research I could with over 40 different sources. I literally spent a little over two hours just reading articles and doing quick math. and then I plugged a bunch of that into Claude and said, what do you think? And so that's what I came here. I asked the question, what if the corn belt, you know, the Midwest that does mostly corn and soybeans. What if we took 10 % of our current production and put it into CRP and to some sort of set aside program. I included CSP and some of those things, but then I ended up transferring it all to CS CRP acres. The reason being is because CRP is truly set aside CSP and equip. And some of those are considered working landscapes. And there's, think they're amazing. There's nothing wrong with those, but I wanted to say, What if we actually just set these acres aside and said, these are going to sit here. And there's a lot of things that come into play. One, I want to take a quick little history lesson to, we have the set aside acres. We've talked about that. That kind of started off CRP set aside acres were required to have certain benefits. Then Dr. Larry Weber came onto our podcast and said, if he could change one thing, he would say, you can't get subsidies for your farm unless you have set aside acres, which I think the more I think about it, that's a clever idea. And the reason being is if you want the government to help you sell your product for a higher price, not, I'm not against that. Then you need to follow government or quote unquote people restrictions. I'm all for you doing what you want on your land when you want to. Um, but then you have to take the lows with that, which is low markets or low, you know, you at finding a market for things is very difficult to do. uh, Everyone here separate from Hoxie. We've all had to had our own business and tried to find a market for something we're trying to sell and we know firsthand it is a difficult thing. so then along in the nineteen nineteen ninety six came the big freedom freedom to farm act. You guys are probably familiar with that. Well almost immediately everything got ripped up that was left. Kent Boucher (15:42.914) Freedom to Farm Act? I'm not familiar with that. Uh, it basically was a big thing. The biggest thing was that it took away the set aside acre requirement to, uh, and it took away or lessened a lot of the safety nets that farmers had. Well within, especially for their commodity crops. Well, within a few years by some in 1998, but by 1999, the market crashed. in 2002, Congress came back swinging with, uh, let's see. It was called, it was just the farm bill of 2000, 2002. And they introduced counter cyclical payments, which is basically the subsidies, the, the welfare checks, right? That if, if, um, prices go below a certain price compared to your neighbors, uh, or your bushel count is too low, you get a check for it. Right. That's when that was introduced. Um, and became such a large thing. And as well as Uh, the vast majority of the insurance premiums for farmers is now paid for. Um, so that brings us, that was kind of what happened with the set aside acres. And, uh, when they brought it back in 2002, when they brought back these safety nets, they didn't bring back set aside acres, the 10%. Um, and so there was market distortion without the regulation on it. Um, and again, I understand people have their land. They don't want the government selling what to do on it. I totally understand. I just don't think we also can turn around and then tell the government, but I need you to sell my product for me. Right. That's kind of, you can't have your cake and eat it too. So today, if we were to pull out 10 % of the corn and bean acres, and I tried to break it down to a county level, on average across it's mostly Illinois, Iowa, Eastern, Nebraska, Southern Minnesota, not Wisconsin's different. It's just got a different, Nicolas Lirio (17:38.502) ag economy in terms of percentages. But this is what the county would lose. This is the big thing. Middleman sales, right? And we know a lot of these people, they're good, they're good guys. The middleman seed companies, the middleman chemical companies, the middleman fertilizer companies, the co-ops, whether they're small or large, this is where the vast majority of the economic loss would come. And there would be job loss. If you take out 10 % of these sales, you're gonna lose roughly 10 % of the employees. I don't believe that those companies have so much bloat just sitting around. I don't think our local co-ops are just so flush with cash that they would just hold all their employees. So it would be about, it would literally be about $11 million per county per year that we would be losing. grain handling, elevator throughput, which would be more of a co-op thing, but the money that co-ops make based on holding onto stuff or, or the shuffling, the actual like trucking cost of, of getting it. And then the cash rent difference would be substantial, mostly today and mostly in prime acres, right? Where people are getting 325 bucks an acre. And CRP is going to pay them two 40 or something of the sort. Right. So the, Total economic reduction is about 15 to $20 million per county per year. That's that is a heavy average. You know, you got to wait that for how many people, how much, what percentage you have of ag land, stuff like that. Here's what it gains. This was pretty tough to speculate on, but, higher commodity prices. It's not a one for one. We've talked about this. If you have a 10 % shortage on commodities, it's not that all the corn is 10 % more expensive. It's if you run into that shortage, it might be 50 % more expensive. Um, and so that was, Kent Boucher (19:39.662) Short supply is short supply. Yes. pay whatever it takes if they want it bad enough. Exactly. And the Institute of Ag and Economy Policy, I believe it was, said that they believe on average year over year, corn would cost a dollar more a bushel, which is a lot of money. mean, it's like a 15 % increase. And that increase goes, should go directly to the farmer's pocket. So that's immediately. So that's not like, oh, we get 25 % more on your bank account. No, that would probably literally double what farmers end up getting in their bank account. The hunting and recreation, this, depends on location, but I don't know if you know this, whitetail deer is a multiple billion dollars industry every year. I did not know that until looking. So especially where there's whitetail deer that pays high, a lot higher. Yep. Kent Boucher (20:32.174) think the whole hunting industry is somewhere around, and maybe it's hunting and fishing, but I think it's just hunting, is somewhere around a trillion dollars. I mean, not quite, but close to a trillion dollar industry, Interesting. And you have to think about the vast amount of money that's poured into recreational property. What would otherwise be, you know, maybe $2,000 land for seven, eight, $10,000 per acre, which people are then paying property taxes on, higher property taxes on. pasture rangeland. Nicolas Lirio (21:07.982) So I did the math based on previous numbers when we had way more set aside acres, but you gotta remember a lot of those set aside acres were brome. So you can't just say, okay, well there's double the amount of habitat. we're going to have double the hunters. Right? So I went with roughly how many hunters were there as a percentage of population back when there would have been roughly the same amount of acreages and That seems like a, I'm going be a little picky on that. That seems like a, like a very reasonable thing to do for somebody who doesn't hunt. Yeah. Because, I mean, this just makes sense. However, previous generations hunted more than current generations. And a lot of that had to do with, and what would have during the set aside era, it would have included World War II vets. That was like the most populous generation of hunters. And it's gone down steadily with like a bump in 2020 when everybody had more time on their hands, right? That has been on the decline. And I, so I did think about that. I didn't know how to quantify it. I came up with dollar for dollar too high a number. I'm pretty sure $3 million more. If 10 % of the new habitat got leased, that'd be $3 million more to the local hunting industry per acre. I'm pretty sure that's way too high. Let's say it's a hundred thousand dollars more per per county. That is not That's not nothing that's going directly to some person's pocket and right. You know what I mean? And so in that fun fact did not include leases. That was just what is spent locally on recreational hunting and fishing. Okay. Yeah. And so that number with the leases, I came up with about a million bucks. I still think that's way too high. You know, again, if we guessed a hundred to $200,000 per County, um, now, Kent Boucher (23:15.583) acre of habitat? no, No, no, no, per county, per county. So a county as a whole. But if you think about it, between those two things, you've got 200 to $500,000. That's seven full-time jobs of people in the county. I know that sounds silly, but that's probably roughly the amount of jobs that you're losing in middlemen at the co-op, you know? And so reduced farm operating losses and stress, not quantified at all, but less work. means that the you don't need as much money to spend unless work and then the CRP or set aside rental payments at just 150 to $225 per acre would be between three and $6 million for the county per year. And that, the high commodity prices obviously are the biggest chunk of this, but you're talking about $30 million for the county, which, and I don't know, you guys can, judge me on it. I tried to round down. I tried to be as accurate and actually pulled numbers from what expert economists actually did research on. actually outweighs the loss of ground. But not only that, what isn't implemented in here is that you would be looting the ground you'd be losing would be your least productive ground. You know what I mean? So you're not losing 10 % of your production. You're losing just 10 % of the ground. You're probably hardly losing 5 % of your production. Now, something that is really important to bring up is that they did the people, this has been brought up like, we should have set aside acres for subsidies has been brought up. It's almost always killed by American Farm Bureau. The farm insurance lobbyists, which of which by far the strongest is American Farm Bureau. Nicolas Lirio (25:11.566) The American government spends $65 per acre in our Midwest region on insurance, on subsidized insurance, $65. About $20 of that goes directly to the insurance companies. What I mean is it doesn't get paid out to the farmer. So a third of it gets kept by the insurance companies. And Senator Shaheen firm act tried to address this several years ago. And it basically proposed a cap on where the insurance companies make most of their money as they charge administrative fees, right? This isn't going to the farmer. It's just like, well, we've got to pay our secretary. got to, and to some extent that's true, but he tried to get it capped at the low dollar amount of $900 million per company. He tried to get it capped at $900 million and that got killed. immediately by crop insurance lobbyists. Yeah. Wow. So that was the, that was my attempt of a breakdown of what would actually happen in your County. The biggest, the biggest gain would, there would definitely be an increase in dollars per bushel and the biggest loss would be there are, mean, there's a kid I used to have a youth group that just got a job at a local co-op and he loves being an ag. This is, he doesn't, doesn't have a farm to farm. So this is his chance to be an ag and there's a good chance he'd be lower on the totem pole and him, not necessarily him, but people in his status, a bunch of them would lose their jobs. And so those are kind of the things we have to weigh. But you know what I didn't put in there on purpose. I feel like it maths out before you put water quality in there, before you put higher numbers of wild. Well, and also how many people does the economy pick up because people want to live here more. I know multiple people who have moved from way out of state to Iowa simply because of deer hunting opportunity. if you had better hunting opportunities, you would only see more of that, I am confident. And we saw firsthand at the Iowa Sportsman's Club banquet this year, Kent Boucher (27:24.78) the governor's tag, allows for whoever possesses that tag to skip the weight on if you're a non-resident applying for a non-resident archery tag here in Iowa. As long as you bid enough money and the money goes to a conservation effort. This year, we went to funding Iowa Sportsman's Club. I believe the winning bid for that one tag, now remember, this isn't a guaranteed, you're guaranteed to get an animal, let alone a trophy class animal. This is just for the opportunity to come and get one with your bow. And that tag auctioned off at, I believe it was $43,500. So that's the evidence of what people would be willing to reward Iowa with. funds wise if there was more habitat to be held. And, you know, as things sit, I am definitely not in favor of non-resident landowners in the state being able to, and I know this is gonna tick some people off, but I'm just, it's my state, not yours. And I'm not in favor of them having a guaranteed archery tag because they own land here. Right, right. And, and, but maybe if there was so much, so much more habitat, then maybe that would start to make sense because the deer herd could handle it better. Cause even though we do have a very high quality deer herd here in Iowa, we have one of the smallest deer herds in the Midwest and because of our lack of habitat. so I did not know that, but, also, there's the problem of when non-resident landowners can have a guaranteed tag, now all the residents who want to be landowners have way more and way deeper pockets to compete with that. So that'd be the other reason why I still wouldn't be in favor for that, but it would make more sense at least. Nicolas Lirio (29:30.264) Hey, what? Nicolas Lirio (29:40.94) What if there was a compromise where it's like you get double the points? It's not guaranteed. Maybe get. Yeah, or I heard. I heard one guy suggest maybe after you hit a certain age where you're not guaranteed tomorrow, let alone four years from now. yeah. You know, like if you're if you're an 80 year old or 70 year old or something like that. Yeah. Then you get one every other year or something. Yeah. Cause I mean, the people who have the deep pockets to pay a bunch for land. that was another loss that that was talking about is not cashflow at all. So it would not affect your day to day, but it would affect land values that they, they, I don't remember. I literally have a list of like 40 sources here. One of them said they thought it was about 30 % land value depreciation. Sure, yeah, that would be another thing to consider. But also, we're talking of this in the context of deer, pheasants, turkey being the big driver, right? But one of the things everyone, we hear people who enjoy listening to this podcast, and I think the three of us feel the same way. We would love for there to be a day when elk and bison are back free-ranging on Iowa's landscape. The only way you're ever gonna have that is with more habitat, significantly more habitat. And then if those populations are healthy enough, now you're talking about appealing to whole new industries of recreation for people to enjoy here in Iowa. And again, generates more financial reward. Riley Rozendaal (31:14.432) I think the way that that makes the most sense is by establishing corridors. not going to... I don't claim to take credit at all. heard... What is that? Establishing habitat. yeah, it has to make sense. Yeah. Nicolas Lirio (31:27.412) Someone talk about corridors like connecting like Neil Smith or some sort of official? You can't just have 10 % more habitat on the landscape and it's all checkerboard. It doesn't flow together. Like, we somehow set aside, let's say, on each side of this river up 30, 40 miles? It's gotta be enough connected habitat. Elk would be easier to reestablish in that way, but. Kent Boucher (31:48.3) like Ringgold County, which is. Kent Boucher (32:01.666) Well, we already have, know, our buddy Jase said, you know, we get around 30 reported elk every year in Iowa. there's you know, some of that going on naturally. Iowa's habitat degraded to what, 6 % of what it used to be, if you include forest and prairie, and it's still where elk want to be. I was tricky hunt with a really good friend of mine who's from Nebraska Sandhills in Nebraska and he's like and all I've known of Iowa is interstate 80 and coming down into southern Iowa this place is beautiful There's way more way more timber than I realized there's the hills are rolling So we have we have a lot of the foundation there for for a better web of that But yeah, we just need simply more acres of it and more acres in the right places. Have you seen what the internet thinks of I-80. it's not just Iowa. They're like, it is the greatest hellscape you've ever been on. Because, I mean, it makes sense. It's through some of the flattest part of the United States. And of course, if you're building a road, you pick the flattest areas you can. Well, I-80 is one of the only major interstates where they were able to. Oh, and I-35, of course, the other one that goes through. No. It's not good. I'm sure it's not. Nicolas Lirio (33:17.598) Where they were like, this basically is flat all the way across and so that whole interstate is as flat as could be and you know, else is really great for flat? Commodity farming so on all sides of I-80 as far as you could go and I've driven I-80 from Chicago all the way to California. I've gone all the way down in one stretch. It is a hellscape. It is terrible. Which stretch is the worst? Eastern Nebraska. gets better. Western Nebraska and Colorado is somewhat better. Iowa's pretty bad. Western Iowa's, I mean all of Iowa's pretty terrible. Illinois wasn't great. I think the stretch through Illinois is much harder than Iowa or Nebraska. Well, Illinois doesn't have as nice a gas stations. Iowa's economy is live and breathe on gas stations. So there's a little more effort put into him. Kent Boucher (34:07.55) That's a good point once you get out once you get to the land of big market Gas stations like you know BP show If you got to take a dump at a shell you I mean you need to sign your your will and order before reevaluate your priorities in life. Yeah, dude at that point just pay for a daily pass at Chuck E Cheese and go there, you know At that point you just start considering adult diapers Well, if I put six of my daughter's diapers together, man, that devolved really quick from like speculative economics. Kent Boucher (34:49.55) I feel so sleepy though. I've got to go burn. I gotta go burn a field. You're not allowed to sleep. Hey everyone. Thank you so much for listening Don't forget we've got a forum. We are just now just go the prairie farm comm will take you straight to the forum you can I think you can be on the forum and engage without having an account or you can have an account to have your name attached to it and we just We like as a team just made our accounts and started doing stuff still gonna make mine. But I think Nick's gonna do a little bit of a deep dive on the forum on the Flush podcast, which we're recording this week. There there isn't an intimate reason that we are doing the forum for Prairie as a whole and basically it has to do with like when you Google stuff it sucks like it's not good and most of the good When he says Google stuff, he's meaning on Prairie Nicolas Lirio (35:45.088) Yep. And, I mean, there's really great websites out there and Google just doesn't always pick them up. So that was part of our goal. So the more of us that are talking about Prairie on the Prairie farm forum, the more Google is going to pick it up and people are going to get really good information on it. Tabitha Panis, she's previously the president of IPN. She's working on content right now to get up there. And we've talked to a bunch of other people that you will start to see on the forum that truly are experts that know what they're talking about. Shout out to Luke Clark. Who I just kind of give one little mention about it and he went up and posted something before basically before the forum was even ready. He just glued. Yeah. He posted a bunch of content on grazing. So if you guys look, that's awesome. We appreciate y'all. Is there anything? if you're needing some native seed, now's the time. Now's the time, especially with CRP. it's a little wet on the ground, but we are shipping out a lot of CRP seed right now. Awesome. We'll talk to you guys again next time. That was short and sweet. Nice work. Kent Boucher (36:35.138) Yeah, perfect time to plant still.