Ep. 331 (Coffee Time) These Iowa Politicians Killed a Bill That Could Enhance Water Quality...

Some stuff went down at the Iowa Capitol last week, and we want to talk about it. Tayler Riggen, President of the Iowa Sportsman Club, joined us to talk about his time lobbying for a conservation and water quality boosting program that was killed by the subcomittee. But of course, we start the conversation talking about Nicolas’ lack of hunting, and how Tayler raises his kids to view deer hunting.

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    Unknown

    I was talking to somebody there hunting season this year, and I don't know that I do that conversation. And I bet you know who this person is, but we're going to not. And, they are very pregnant, and they love they love hunting.

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    Unknown

    Ever love hunting, and I like. Hey, very personal question. I don't think you do. No, no, no, very personal question. We are in a setting. Would you even have one this year? Like, were you able. I don't know, you know, I don't know. Pregnant because of. For obvious reasons. And, She was like, no, it was so good.

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    Unknown

    Yeah. The worst part about it was like. Yeah. That's crazy. The dedication part. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's true. That's that's like all the. Is it all good. There's the worst part was not like this year. But then

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    Unknown

    So anyway, just like I just go, you know, just just need to hit, tiny little, it's just like. Oh, yeah. Yeah. For for, eat it all. Yeah. Yeah, I like it. Here's what I want I want can. Yeah. He he take me whenever I want.

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    Unknown

    Can take me to his, his family's farm for my kids. But what is it? Rule number one? No whining. No no no no no, there's no. No. The, pretty good, I remember. Yeah. And, so far, my my dream is that just like a 191, the never one he never saw on his camera or anything and promised me that I could look at it.

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    Unknown

    Absolutely. If, I don't understand, like, how and if you do this, too know, but I don't understand how it works. You don't be like everybody is everybody. That's the first class. So this one is is on the is on the table, right? It's like you really want to shoot a giant that you bring in with you and he I mean, the years, like standing there, you know, like, so you could shoot him 20 times or you can't do, but because.

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    Unknown

    Because he's not allowed to. Yeah. And then later on, you get the chance to shoot that. Like, I know it means something to, Yeah. Like that's. Okay. So this is different. Yeah, I do do this with kids. Sure. In right or wrong. Yeah, I could, I, I need to slow walk my kids. Yeah. Know this whole world of grace.

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    Unknown

    Yeah. Cause with a nine year old, if you go to 190 now, every year after this, it's like, well, it's not a big one. So. And I don't want it. Right now we have, the shooting here. Yeah. And, like, this perfect example took, my boys, I always do cousins and my boys and all their cousins come down to our farm.

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    Unknown

    Oh, no, your shots were great, but brother in law's I have kids. Right. And that night, all the kids shoot deer. And I got it all set up. We're pretty high.

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    Unknown

    Yeah. And so we did that this year. And her name was my boys and years old. And, you know, kids that they're nine and. Yeah. But it's yours. Yeah. That they, we don't we don't bring you know, like we, you know might bring a book or something, but we're just talking, you know what? This is what we're doing.

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    Unknown

    And, they, they're messing around and and pushing each other and, you know, but it's we're here all around us and all that stuff, you know. And so, you know, I can see there's these other nice and in the 150 range. But this is like a little bit too big for. Yeah. Yeah. My at this point.

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    Unknown

    How old. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And so you still you do probably think like 8 or 10 a year now those little ones. And we just kind of like kind of slow. Yeah. I just, we're not ready to be like. So do you. Are you even careful about your language then? Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. I gotta be very interesting how I describe deer.

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    Unknown

    Because if I, like, no he's not very big. Yeah. That, that comes with some sort of conversation. Yeah. Oh I don't do that. Oh so you agree with that. So anyway I'm sitting there watching the field and there's, you know, they're like, oh, you know, over the moon, you know. Yeah. We're hunters. Yeah. And so we actually did have, an older eight point year that I really wanted to, you know, had nicknamed, you know, the one year or so that one was that year ended up coming out and I told them I'm like, okay, so we just put be out here.

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    Unknown

    So it was already, and you know, the windows got set. You need a great shot. I mean, so can shooting this, you would, you know. Right. But as he shot, he got him and he looked up, and then all of a sudden, you're on and he goes, dad, there's a huge.

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    Unknown

    Well, I, I mean, I, I'm sure you're doing a great job with that, but just human nature. I feel like there's a the ones that'll be the most impressive. Yeah. He's, he's. Yeah. Well, you're ones you do movies and, Yeah. No, but you just to be like, really rare. I think those look cool. I think I want, you know.

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    Unknown

    And we didn't. We don't care about the GI tract as, we, the hunt because, Daniel Boone. Yeah, I do, no. Why isn't it? Think about how it probably happens. And it's not very much, although the, like a growing population. Yeah. Oh, wow. Human. Come on. Well, you're in a situation where, like, we're talking different or not right here.

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    Unknown

    You really can't. So. And he gave me. Or they're the pro and, like, the whole culinary market around there. Me. Brilliant, brilliant.

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    Unknown

    You know? So, yeah, the, They. I'm sure make a fortune by opening it up, like, to international. You know, I don't know. I don't know what the deal with that is. I think, Don't care. No, we don't we don't care. We owe we we don't care about this either, because it's like, this is what matters.

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    Unknown

    We care about because neatly inside of us. I think that's cool, you know? And, yeah, I kind of build on it, but I feel like if you eradicated hunting for 100 years back, the the size of the racket there would still end up getting matters again. And mentioned everyone was not to like, witness their acts, but some. And you saw their act, right.

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    Unknown

    And it was designed to kind of put this inches into the game. Right, Greg. The whole idea is, if you're if you have this growing act that means healthy and is probably a reflection of the herd numbers. And, who's conservation? Yeah. If an animal is left alone long enough to fully express his genetic and so then this year, they're seeing, like, 20 years on the regular.

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    Unknown

    Okay. Probably for some more than Iowa. I mean, there's more. So. So it's interesting, right. Because you probably have a fairly small amount of mass on the planet, not on the planet. And in, white Country, as has existed in movies. It would be interesting to you and I don't know, it would be interesting to me because then we didn't have corn and, you know, oh, we didn't have that food on.

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    Unknown

    Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's an incredibly efficient form of, you know, like, it's almost like lean, feedlot and multi. Yeah. Right. And and, we have so calorically out from all, you know, calories that are there for browsing and grazing animals. I would, I would say probably, maybe a little higher right now just because the way we engineer specifically in southern Iowa is that our country.

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    Unknown

    You're saying? Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, and are true grazers, they, they're eating everything that you don't. Yeah. They, they want us to like, you know, browse the they really like, like, well, we're, more. Yeah. Just concentrate. And so, I think it was a better quality, food option when we had, you know, our mass prairies, the more the cornfield offers what you offer.

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    Unknown

    But as far as efficiency and getting tired now think humans with taller, our feet are bigger, you know. You know, that's not a matter of yours today. We know it was advertised, you know. Now the one Columbus set. I didn't know that. Okay. Is that right. When you look out energy you know the old energy pyramid.

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    Unknown

    How, how where animals found on that pyramid, their population is high energy available to them. And so we have more energy, we have more, more population. But what what I want to get into with the podcast and, because we can't assume that all of our listeners are hunters and even some just like hunting. Yeah. And and I've said this to me before, but the teachers, the one with, another teacher and they were, they were, not very long.

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    Unknown

    You guys shoot the healthiest, best you. So, you know, it's like, it's artificial selection, right? You're you're only targeting the best animals and you're killing them, and that seems like. Yeah, you're kind of right doing that. But that's not necessarily true because it was not necessarily. And this is where this is where it kind of, you know, to be fair, a little bit as well.

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    Unknown

    I don't mean most healthy likely to survive, you know. But the other side of that is when you does reward H to, you know, like, well, we're the animals and, that means that you are you are letting every year live two and a half years old or older, five and a half half. You're allowing every there's some other reason to have to have a chance to breed multiple times in their lifetime.

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    Unknown

    And we know that is best for the gene pool. The more, the more available DNA your gene pool has better or is suited for survival. Correlation health. So when you prioritize hunting only the oldest animals, you are in fact doing great things for natural selection that you're allowing. You're saying, I will only hunt older animals. Therefore I'm allowing the most amount of gene, variety and I think we've gone through this phase, not through this phase of, the entire highest year.

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    Unknown

    You know, I think the thing has come out of the most is that there's so many people out there like, I don't really, I. Yeah. Like a bigger act. Yeah. That's maybe the end of the year this year, but I'm only, age. Yeah. In a structure that I'm that, you know, this year we had a year in our reserves.

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    Unknown

    But I think we over a year. Over ten year. Look, the other year, you got, like, you know, this big, you know, the media launches as far as. So that's the year over years. And part of that is because you see them like that, you know, you know, you don't get to be around what is it that age is he bigger.

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    Unknown

    Has bodies. You just shoulders or it's just looks like his head I can't explain it. So yeah, just any it looks like it just shows it was here last week. Yeah. So it is. He looks like cattle, Hey, mean just looks different. Oh, well. Yeah, man. Interesting. Yeah. So, I mean, you give us your. You're saying you're you're with a one and a half year old.

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    Unknown

    They never have a chance to live. Yeah, totally. That's more of prefer, booting, which doesn't seem to favor hunting, because if you eliminated in general, you would still have that, you know what? They live longer and and look more like I was saying it just as an overall. How did he get in here?

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    Unknown

    I don't know, as an overall man, he's on here right now. Well, like, the, it's not. You're right. Not true. Like, apologetic for for, However, it is, it is, you know, apologetic for prioritizing older, more mature angels. Yeah. So in other words. Oh, you know, it's just not. Yeah, yeah, there's a lot more, because that's for sure.

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    Unknown

    And for the DNR

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    Unknown

    All right, we got, I guess we got a lot to go. And we're like, well, yeah. Back to someone's house. Nicholas Leary by your favorite cohost catcher. Hey, look, it's pretty. It's pretty awesome. I have no regrets.

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    Unknown

    I made a real out of this. You are just cool if you wear your grandparents clothes. Yeah, yeah. That's cool. Oh, that is, as best I can tell, it was made in Iowa. Yeah. That's awesome. This is the last time other than, like.

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    Unknown

    Oh, man. And a guest host. And, someone actually helped bring the topic today. Our dear friend read. Let's go and do that. Yeah, yeah. He's ripping, you know, old part. Yes. Had just loves his. He has time. It's a long little endeavor. So, time is, is all the 1940s out there? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So.

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    Unknown

    What color is it? It's an awesome, weird yellow. Let's go to that next time you put that on the bottom. Yeah. What a legend. All alone. Yes. Chroma over the years. Yeah, sure. Now hear that? Or or remember the with the worst one we just had, like the fuzzy, like your flap. Oh, man, those are good.

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    Unknown

    Get one of those for when I was, and I. I wore it through. I wore all the time. Yeah. Just so functional. You know, like the bomber hat with reference on your chest? No, I think it was. It was just a cap that you could put up or down. Yeah. Heck yeah. Oh, no. Yeah. Oh. Yeah.

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    Unknown

    Yeah. All right. I'm ignorant. Who's got who's bringing it? Well, Taylor Tech last week, and, it's interesting because you were the one that, you know, the program was, and we actually, I'm on the first pilot program, and, do you want to say I reached out to, the people? I could maybe I just need to put another hour of digging around to figure out who's the contact.

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    Unknown

    Well, what I received based on, one Minnesota had listed the program as being the individuals in the community. Yeah, yeah. Me too. I got a response there, but I, you know, I just ask you. Hey, you guys been doing this since, 17? Getting on. How is this help? So. So, but since then, it's been reintroduced to be expanded well beyond just.

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    Unknown

    Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, just for people who don't know, so we started, I was four years ago. So the reason that we have is, you know, we're looking at grief, and, and some haven't, but we want to see, obviously in Iowa, all Iowans on drinking water and, you know, sports club doesn't necessarily play and, and, drinking water in that space.

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    Unknown

    Right. But, fisheries and, and so have categories. That's why we were, you know, on the forefront of this issue. And we spoke, with them until now with, Terry Bag, about this bill, coming up in the pilot program, going, it has some funding for installing, so basically what you do is a landowner farmer puts in about this pilot program limited, very small portion of the state in that area.

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    Unknown

    When we get it right, we're on it. Yeah. And they put in some one, river watershed and some across the northern, different pilot program covers that, that's currently running. And basically would do is. Yeah, cover of taking those acres out of production or right up against or a waterway or and putting it and so this, that we had this year was going to build on that.

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    Unknown

    And you for the whole state just and so that was so to hear this last week, what are the odds that it goes through? It's killed. Well, why so the reason, well, all walk through heaven and then maybe.

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    Unknown

    But, it was here a month ago. So we're kind of used to try and get people pumped up about it and that, you know what this has meant, proven to be, one of the best ways to eliminate surface level runoff, right? If you tile, tile straight at any surface level runoff, then really like that was that was.

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    Unknown

    Yeah. Because it was. Right. I thought that, maybe use still was not moving towards the surface. One. Yeah. And not a, not a real sight there there are ways to run that tile to them. For sure. For sure. Do it for the waterway. Just coming ashore. Yes. Yeah. Like I said. What? Yeah. Yeah.

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    Unknown

    And we stick around to that. Anyway, after we had our meeting with the second, I was very excited and confident that this was going to be something that had bipartisan support. And, all Iowans want clean water. Yeah. And the other than this, so in order to get past the subcommittee, this committee here, and subcommittee came around last week, there was 37 lobbyists registered.

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    Unknown

    So when it comes to committee, all these different groups, one of which I was we have our lobbyist we register for or monitoring and or don't register at all right there. 37 lobbyist register reports each year. Different groups, and 100% there's that register as, neutral.

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    Unknown

    Would report the committee. We are only to speak directly to legislators and one way or the other, and I think for about five minutes, there was a 100% support pass is not one. So, seen in opposition to it. Yeah. Just the some of the groups that were there, you did Facebook those. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, it comes across I think we were the only, like, oh yeah.

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    Unknown

    So there's a lot of water groups. The one water works a lot of work. Yeah, I was there. Yes. Okay. But even it spells out lot if you start out they said for purposes they prefer, I, we all right. Anyway so that.

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    Unknown

    Well yeah. Yeah yeah. What I would, I would that would be a tough love. Deep shock. No.

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    Unknown

    Yeah. I don't.

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    Unknown

    Know. All was for this party. And then the end of the public, public voice, period. And then where these subcommittees meet or function is there's three legislators, and whoever is, has control in the House or Senate. And then the other side. Yeah. And so then the, whether or not it's going to pass.

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    Unknown

    Wow. So we're all positive. Wow. You were meeting you or so. I mean, how could you not? Not me. Is Iowa. All Iowans want clean water is all right. In the seconds, they said, I don't want to go forward. Know you say you, That's right. Yeah. So the two hours on the, subcommittee were, the actual measures and, and they talked about 15 seconds to say, you know, you have a program going so we don't see any reason to move forward.

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    Unknown

    So you have a pilot program goes motion to adjourn, and. Yeah. So, so after everyone and then they did that. So you guys all were just sitting there and couldn't what, what what was the vibe that. Yeah, I agree. Right. But but I think most of that was because of,

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    Unknown

    Yeah. 100% support. And then it was right. Adjourn orchestrated to a to have been that way. We're going to hear what to say. Listen, I mean I have no idea, but just. Yeah. And and this, this kind of. So, okay, I, I hate, the back or different sides of the politics. Yeah. I think how it works sometimes, you know, the decision was made for the area of the room, for whatever reason.

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    Unknown

    So you think you think anything, right? I claim to be more fiscally, you know, conservative. Yeah. When I, I emailed both of them. Right after the subcommittee, I said, here's who I am. You don't know me. Point where I come from. And I explained to in my email, I'm a lifelong Iowa resident. I grew up a mile from, like, rock.

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    Unknown

    Then I moved a mile from the moon River. Now we own a piece of property, a mile river. I've always been within a mile of this watershed, and from when I was a kid, I watched that watershed deteriorate, to the point where a lot of times was swimming in so it's dangerous, right? And so I like performance.

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    Unknown

    I want to be steward of what we have. And this is an option that we can run. And so a little bit of money. Yes I understand this or to I don't want to add but we don't have to. But this is an Iowa thing. You know, nobody wants clean water. Right. And so my point was I don't understand how about or sympathy for this and we'll just.

    00:29:03:03 - 00:29:36:09

    Unknown

    Q can you explain to me your thought process or conversations you had previously before going into that? I mean, you think, let's hear what, you hear anything back? I know it's been about a week. I haven't heard back yet. Thank you. Well, no, I was okay. Interesting. Who do you email? Neighbors. And, Man. So. So these are my two guesses.

    00:29:36:11 - 00:30:10:10

    Unknown

    This is just speculating. Trying to position on Saturday hours someone who has been lobbying things and, how come for ten years, they're running for a seat and, and so just hear some of the behind the scenes one, it was all for shell, the whole thing for shell plan to do anything with or two. It was they, they're kind of in a clamp fiscal mentality.

    00:30:10:12 - 00:30:38:04

    Unknown

    The one I, I hate, I hate that word, but it's like I see their side of the argument. So I'm like, okay, you're what you think is on there. But again, it's unbelievable. But it's crazy. They wouldn't be like, hey, want to add more spending right now? That's like it's it's a this argument. So they said there was but they didn't say that at all.

    00:30:38:06 - 00:31:07:10

    Unknown

    Probably no one looking at that. I mean it's just like you look at is, is, you know, there's a farmer and you're not looking too well. Yeah. I don't think correct thinking is more money than what that bill would have appropriated. On mitigating the effects of, what? We spent the money so, so, yeah. Right then here and then look at the Clean Water Act.

    00:31:07:16 - 00:31:36:02

    Unknown

    Right? We spent so much more money trying to get out of the water than just provision in the water. Well, or even just maybe not even just, you know, in water purifying programs just work that has to do for, you know, fish. Yeah. And, and, you know, what it would bring in for revenue. Yeah. Habitat. And, the increase in interest.

    00:31:36:04 - 00:32:23:00

    Unknown

    Well, I want to be clear on what I was saying about because I'm not saying that argument. I'm just trying to give them the doubt that if someone you know, you're like, we need like that, at least in some direction, or maybe. But at least, like what they're doing. I'm not. Yes, sir. To think that it was dog and pony show and ran around those meetings and, knowing the whole time it was just know, it, you know, I can see why they did, but I guess, I think currently where we sit, with our legislature is the one is an election year, and I don't have it.

    00:32:23:03 - 00:32:48:05

    Unknown

    Yeah. And on your side, they stated over and over and over again with the budget, if fiscally responsible, spend more money than we have. And they also want to cut taxes. And so all of those things in my mind causes, we had,

    00:32:48:07 - 00:33:13:17

    Unknown

    Save money. Yeah. I have that saying. Let's take a 30,000ft view. And yes, this would be fun. There would be additional tax dollars going to fund this, but we're going to get on the back side with less in the water. We have to train, you know, and then money. I mean, all I want one is on this.

    00:33:13:20 - 00:33:45:02

    Unknown

    Yeah. Yeah. I was, you know, you know, I don't know anything about running prop. Logically, it seems to me. And how it would affect my vote as an island. I saw my politician who's up for reelection. Look at it. Two or problems, which is our our water quality crisis and our cancer crisis. And I saw them put some real action out there.

    00:33:45:04 - 00:34:13:11

    Unknown

    Even a, you know, didn't work. At least I knew you were. You weren't just which is which is I mean, that's based on the conversation. That's where I do things is, is, excited about trying to put some of this stuff forward. I mean, the place before to, to then when you said. Or if I was running for governor.

    00:34:13:12 - 00:34:45:15

    Unknown

    Right. Yeah. I would be having the clean water station healing. There's so much violence here. Not so clean. I mean, is hammering on that, is it wrong? Has looked into it. I'm saying it definitely. I don't know for any of the other that I've. That I've seen there so full all the shows what they're, they're saying, you gotta stay on the section though.

    00:34:45:18 - 00:35:10:12

    Unknown

    So if you really someone and you comment on their stuff, don't like them, you are helping them get more views. Just just, you know, like it works better to have positive comments on people like you've come to, don't you? I mean, that's powerful. Then my left is oh yeah, yeah, it is humorous for us side of the readers.

    00:35:10:14 - 00:35:25:15

    Unknown

    No no no no, it's, you know what? And what? No.

    00:35:25:17 - 00:35:56:03

    Unknown

    That's just, just the the moment. Okay, okay, I have a question. I don't know if you remember it. Who was on the monitoring list? The not weird for this, you know? I'm not sure. Okay. I'm not sure, I don't remember. It was. Oh, okay. Cool. They weren't like, you weren't, like, shocked to be like or think you probably are against this, but I just don't want to say you're.

    00:35:56:05 - 00:36:23:13

    Unknown

    No, no, not in what was registered. Okay, I mention and you posed, Farm Bureau was not registered on this bill one way or the other. Meaning or supposedly meaning that they do not have a one way or the other, but they were still in the room, so don't be so, Wow. Yeah, you better believe the Farm Bureau knows this is going on, and, yeah, it would be good for them if they're against.

    00:36:23:15 - 00:36:55:20

    Unknown

    They would publicly register against clean water in Iowa, right? Yeah. Why would you public health decisions, closed doors. Why would you even register? Then I counter. All right, more closing. Couple housekeeping first. Just. Oh. Yeah. Well, I didn't want to mention. So this year, we're going to find ways or have your heart.

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    Unknown

    Records for bringing that. Yeah, it's gonna keep working on that. All right. But, secondly, I do want to mention, on the habitats. Well, that sort of started four years ago. I've been actually kind of shocked how much success we've had. Killing bad bills. It's harder to be only aggressive and get Bill passed.

    00:37:26:15 - 00:38:05:17

    Unknown

    Yeah. An official, mentioned that. Well, and that our nationals imposed on people, to be raccoon for sure. You know, anything random? You know, more often than not. Just saying. Don't worry that, I will you please. What do we have to do to fund that? Well, yeah. So we've had a lot of times legislature was also at the aisle, and I think we're in a place now where tax to raising taxes tax so much.

    00:38:05:19 - 00:38:44:01

    Unknown

    The taxpayer has already voted to do that. They said we want that to happen today. Yeah. How when that. No. They said will taxes go up. This is now for now. But it was it was about okay I think almost seven okay. All right. Yeah. All right over again, you know, but the working to fund it, and how it would be funded, our argument is it's a one increase.

    00:38:44:03 - 00:39:10:14

    Unknown

    We're going to split that ten and 3/8, you know, to clean water quality initiatives. Could be. Yeah, things like that. It was, what, 5/8 of that is what the arguments over where. And it's hey. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. So so it's not just Ireland they're paying. Right. If you any time you have someone else going to do an, nation like applications.

    00:39:10:14 - 00:39:38:07

    Unknown

    Yeah. That's why Florida houses are using. Yeah. Else. And we gotta, we have the people. Yeah. Yeah yeah yeah. So three eight. The thing is really not, being fought over. That's stuff I'm interested in, is what are we going to do with the penny for land and water? What's being fought over is the algorithm and where to fight to go.

    00:39:38:07 - 00:40:09:11

    Unknown

    Who is that? Right? And now all of a sudden, they're gone. So that's what, Kim Reynolds had on her initiative in 2020 that this year. And they were working on it and they seemed like they had like at the end of the tunnel. Yes. There's you and then and yeah. Yeah. Interesting legislators. But I would say that there is a strong understanding.

    00:40:09:13 - 00:40:34:09

    Unknown

    Okay. There's no, there's can't one is. Yeah. This needs to get let's figure out where the votes go and let's make it make it go. Second camp is. Yeah. We know done. What's an election year like I mentioned, and we don't want to, you know, taxes. We have to wait till next year. We don't want to raise taxes.

    00:40:34:09 - 00:40:47:01

    Unknown

    And the question is, okay, well, when is your taxes then. Yeah, you know, that's the bottom line is it is Iowans. Yeah. As you mentioned.

    00:40:47:03 - 00:41:13:14

    Unknown

    But it is us funding our own water issues. But when you do it and so I think we're at a point where everyone knows needs to be done. And one thing we're trying to push is in the next. So there's two ways. And this is not like, and, you know, Bill, so it goes three ways.

    00:41:13:16 - 00:41:39:19

    Unknown

    If we have a thousand people email, well, there's different ways any of your local state your house reserves in three weeks. I think that's, so. And what do they say? Because we're all we're all in the three days that the five days. You know what I mean? Yeah. What I said is they want to cut taxes.

    00:41:39:19 - 00:42:08:20

    Unknown

    Everybody wants to use it as a a win for your platform. And it's for property tax reform and put it towards lowering property taxes. Yeah. You know. Yeah. And it was you guys how big of an issue that is property taxes and leave here for sure. And so 5 to 6 man big win win for yeah for their in their cap for getting across the finish line.

    00:42:08:20 - 00:42:37:13

    Unknown

    And you doing something positive on the side. Yeah well I love that I love that. So and then over here the your hockey. Yeah that's what the, the auction. We're having a little, little link there on Instagram page mostly. Just be on Instagram or Facebook page. You get a link there. Otherwise you can just email or if you have a phone number, you can just.

    00:42:37:15 - 00:43:11:09

    Unknown

    But, it live it. There's a few the trucks. We're still Pokemon guys, so, but that was the thing. I also the machinery that kind of that up you are looking. We've got several items on that would be very useful for, native seed growing and planting. I think, yeah. Exactly. Like, so if there was some way no computer, it was voted like the these it was voted it would work on.

    00:43:11:11 - 00:43:45:11

    Unknown

    There were so many of them. Oh no. No, it's a great tractor. We've got several of them on there and some of them need a little works fine. But it's one of those easiest is not because we don't need know most. Well we if we don't this is a we we use every single year. Like just look just a little native seed time where a drop podcast with a genius prairie guy and he talks about the plant prairie from each month.

    00:43:45:13 - 00:44:19:12

    Unknown

    Still time your march once. But, before we jump on with some stuff on here, then, the last thing I want everyone to read, I was really cool. Yeah, yeah. Pretty sure you guys following along on our journey. And I wanted a little, bitterness in my heart about, the best video we've ever released for platform hit a million views, and it was about.

    00:44:19:14 - 00:44:26:22

    Unknown

    Okay. Yeah, it's it's really.

    00:44:26:23 - 00:45:06:16

    Unknown

    Yeah, yeah. Well, I think the bottom. Well, look, if I want to guarantee getting very many views on one of our farm, Instagram Reels, I will put myself Facebook. I'm not kidding. You guys look like Nicholas the 10,000 views was. Yeah. No, I know you do it. You're dog. And, along these lines, on federal level, this week and it may actually happen before, this dropped in case it doesn't, look into, the Boundary Waters, mining.

    00:45:06:16 - 00:45:51:08

    Unknown

    Oh, they're basically a, the administration, the the, bipartisan effort, came together, this 20 year on, mining in the Boundary Water watershed, Boundary Waters. No, no. Or and, so, like many lakes in, northern Minnesota and, parts and, they call for like and, mining would happen, somewhere in the, no, you know, where it would drain into the Minnesota portion of these lakes.

    00:45:51:10 - 00:46:40:05

    Unknown

    And it is our last, most pristine, wilderness in the lower 48. And so, mining has significant doesn't matter what what's, as you, affect on the surrounding area within the watershed. I don't think you told ruin it. I don't think, well, that would be great. And, if you, this week, it is projected that the Senate is going to meet and, vote to take, the 20 year halt, the House of Representatives, Congress already met and passed that.

    00:46:40:07 - 00:47:09:06

    Unknown

    And so the Senate, I can't imagine, the president not also signing it if the Senate would pass it. So, I would, send an email here about it. It's it's, you're worried about this email of, the, talk to you, your senator sent you. Please vote no on, sharing on that. We're all on the online.

    00:47:09:06 - 00:47:42:02

    Unknown

    And, George, thanks. Right here. So I was going on. Well, we're pushing towards our, trying to do the last remaining work. March 6th in the morning is our biggest one of the year. And so. Yeah. And this is, so that we can I would your glasses, come in your Friday night and and your Saturday and.

    00:47:42:07 - 00:48:09:01

    Unknown

    Yeah. Where are you from? Okay. Great times. I invite everybody to come out, for going on about it. Excellent. Right. I got confirmation Ross is planning on being there, and then, I did get confirmation, and his team are planning on, coming through, and just. It shows the, relationships that we've built there on together in one spot.

    00:48:09:06 - 00:48:34:10

    Unknown

    So that's the island and, positive for Thursday, then it's awesome. All right, everyone, you're here. Check out gun. Oh, God. Going on over I was sportsman club. They fight for a lot more there maybe. No no no no no. You're in the group for the cap. And we really appreciate this. So, so next.

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