Nick, if you had,

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give up your whole life

except for your wife right now

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and go and live in another place

and the entire planet

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live there.

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I mean, like you're going to have to find

a job or.

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Yeah, in your case,

start a Krusty Krab to.

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Where.

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Would it be?

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And I can't know anyone there.

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No. You can know somebody there.

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Oh, okay. Well,

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I've got family in Michigan,

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a bunch of family in Michigan.

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I'd love to be there.

Like you just settled right there.

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Nothing against you, Michigan, but,

I mean, it's not that far away.

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Redding, California.

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I think that's where I came from.

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And I love that place.

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But if I was picking a state

where, no one else, it could.

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Be another country.

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I think I'd pick Tennessee, I.

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Okay, another country would be cool.

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But, like, the amount of emotional effort

just to learn a new language

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while also having. To, like,

find a job and. Stuff.

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I think I picked Tennessee.

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Tennessee is a good choice, and that would

have been high on my list as well, but I

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and I could have this wrong.

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So fact check me.

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Always important fact check us by the way.

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True,

I, I had heard from somebody credible that

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Tennessee just got rid

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of their open field doctrine,

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which is what allows conservation

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officers to like, if they sense

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that there's poaching going on

or something or some some heinous crime

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against, nature, they can without without

like getting your permission,

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they can go on to private property

and make sure that,

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laws are being obeyed, which is important.

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It's an important law, right.

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Because otherwise

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the only place that would ever be enforced

to be on public land

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and, and the vast majority,

especially in a state like Iowa,

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here, the vast majority of wildlife exists

on private land.

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Just because most of our state is owned

is is own private land.

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But, in Tennessee, they probably have

more public, quite a bit more public land.

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Oh yeah. Because they've got the Smoky

Mountains.

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Right, right.

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But, but the eastern. Mountains.

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But anyways, I thought.

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That was an interesting thing,

you know, that could really,

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become a problem for the quality of their,

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wildlife, especially if,

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it becomes that hard for,

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law enforcement officers to, Yeah,

make sure people are,

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you know, it kind of undermines

the Lacey act is really what it does.

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah, too.

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Well, not I, I shouldn't say it that way.

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Not the Lacey act specifically, but,

like, in the spirit of the right,

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this idea of where we're,

we're legally managing

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for population health,

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these species, you know.

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Yeah, I, I,

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don't like that.

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And it's not a big enough reason

for me to not move to fix.

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Not worried about the deer

hunting. Though.

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Yeah, I really, I mean, I yeah.

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What about.

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I don't know.

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This about Tennessee,

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but it is a trophy whitetail state,

which is kind of rare

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because you really don't

see that much in the South.

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But they are a great.

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Well, but they're pretty I mean, I guess

they're I guess they're south.

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I don't I don't because I've spent a lot

of time in Georgia, Alabama and Tennessee.

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I see Missouri

as more southern than Tennessee.

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And they will.

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Also because Tennessee's so desirable

to go to that so much.

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You spent right there. Do you know what?

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You just like this all the South

there's so desirable to go there. Sir.

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Well those South great places. Yeah.

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Oh yeah. But,

I did have a friend. Oh, man.

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I, I'll just.

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I'll just tell a story.

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I had a friend who, lives in Alabama.

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He knew someone who shot her first name.

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Start with the letter C.

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Yeah, yeah.

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So the friend is Caleb,

but Caleb knows someone who shot

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a ginormous buck, and I'm like,

oh my goodness, dude.

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Like, tell me about it. Send me a photo.

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There was a 128.

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And I just had to be like, oh man, dude,

that's so cool.

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Like, that's always.

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It'd be like, you can flick your toes.

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That's not true. Why?

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To watch three of those

on my way to work this morning,

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though, right? Oh, man.

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I, I've never shot a 128

or anything bigger,

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so I don't want to take away,

but it was like.

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I mean, like,

it was a big deal to their town.

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It was, you know, at 128 in some places

in our country would be very impressive.

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Yeah.

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Just because of how limited opportunities

are. But.

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Well,

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welcome back to the Prairie

Farm podcast, coffee time Wednesday.

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I'm your favorite host.

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Nicholas Leary with your favorite co-host

and grandfather can be.

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Up. At favorite co-host to the co-host

and also our grandfather

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in spirit and the man always telling

us to follow our budgets.

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That's.

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Yeah, he's wearing one of those

t shirts. Right.

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You can't see it,

but it says follow your dreams.

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It's out.

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There. Now.

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Follow your budget.

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Get a real t shirt on, don't I?

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That I'm sure.

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Oh, man.

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You know what that's like?

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That's sort of like the 2005 era t shirts

where like that, right?

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Little phrases.

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That's

what I thought of in a recent episode

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where you're talking about throwaway

clothes, like t shirts and stuff that.

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Yeah, yeah, that.

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All they make, like,

weird phrases out it or whatever.

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Like, I woke up for this or.

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Yeah, the little like, cat.

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I'm over those sarcastic t shirts though.

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Like,

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I all I do is,

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yell at people and work hard.

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And I've already worked hard.

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Now, like, you're not going

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to get any human connection.

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So so last night. So.

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Okay, first of all,

I won't lie to you guys.

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We are recording this podcast

a day and a half later than we should be

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recording,

and we're going to get it up in time.

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We're we're behind.

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Kent has literally wrestled

equipment to the ground all day.

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Anything you could imagine

breaking down has broken down.

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Yeah.

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So we're going to skip straight

to our topic and next week

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we'll get to a question.

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We appreciate everyone

who is sending the questions.

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Please keep them coming.

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Social at the Prairie farm.com.

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You know what questions we haven't

really gotten is stuff about whitetail.

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Well a little bit about pheasant

but we really haven't.

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And I've been shocked about that.

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But I think it's

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because anyone who has a question

about whitetail goes straight to skips.

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Lie on. Your forum.

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And we don't. Blame

and I don't blame you. Yeah, you know.

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What's up.

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But so last night

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I ate taquitos for the first time

since I was in, like, fifth grade.

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You guys know what those are?

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Yeah. Wait, wait, wait.

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Taquitos are our Takis taquitos?

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Because Takis are the chips.

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Yeah, Takis are like, the,

like, Cheeto. Kind of.

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Okay, so taquitos are like the deep

fried little cigar, like.

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Yep, yep. Yeah.

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So what happened was my wife was.

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She smoked those like, well.

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I, I ate like six of them.

I'll tell you what.

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You're not supposed to eat them

because. Oh, my.

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I felt terrible after work. Yeah.

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So I'm not here to tell you

if you should or shouldn't buy them.

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I'll just tell you my experience.

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Monday night, my wife's going

grocery shopping

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because, like, I got to kiddos,

she's like, I haven't had them in forever.

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And she got, like.

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Queso with them and everything.

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So last night we're like, oh, we're gonna.

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It was like 1030.

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We just finished working on the basement

of our coffee shop.

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Taquitos. At 1030, there's a death and.

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Oh, we drink. Coffee at like five.

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And, coffee.

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It just boiling.

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Well, we had.

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We had a lot we had to work with,

like, insulation all night.

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So it was like we had to drink coffee

to get through the evening.

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Do you have Tums for dessert?

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No. You get me a smoothie.

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Kind. So.

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So we're like, oh, bus other taquitos,

and I get like six,

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and I'm like, oh, I don't feel good.

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I'm like, break it out.

The sweat sitting in the air conditioning.

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I don't wow, I need a shower.

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Oh, God.

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Oh. How do you still feel better.

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So I'm not saying those are connected

to our topic today,

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but our topic today is SB 25.

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What does that mean to you guys?

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Senate Bill 20.

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Five.

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Senate Bill

25 of what state can already knows Riley.

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Texas. Texas.

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I heard you guys

talking about it. I did it,

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So I could have played along.

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It'd be like.

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SB 25 has two major categories to it.

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One can actually put me on to this,

he said.

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I saw this Instagram post.

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But please, please, please.

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Make. Sure it's real.

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So I came with a bunch of sources

and it is in fact real for the most part.

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The post said.

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Like Texas is banning

these species are there or the.

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Species and we're tired.

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These ingredients

or they gotta put a warning label.

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It's not real.

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There really isn't.

Talk about banning them.

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It's just the warning label piece

and the warning is going to say warning.

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This product contains an ingredient

that is not recommended

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for human consumption

by the appropriate authority.

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In Australia, Canada,

the European Union and the United Kingdom.

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But go Texas.

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Legislature SB 20.

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Five. Wow.

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That is what.

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So that's what

they'll these companies want to put on.

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And just like Kent was saying,

the big talk is so this is happening 2027.

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It goes into effect January 1st.

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And if

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Texas is a

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huge market for these companies,

I mean, Austin, Houston,

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Dallas, Fort Worth,

what's the other one in far?

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Largely Hispanic, El Paso, El.

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Paso. Yeah, San Antonio.

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San Antonio. I mean.

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I think it's Corpus Christi.

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Christi big,

but a lot smaller than the other ones.

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It's it's like a tourist destination,

basically.

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There's so many huge cities in Texas.

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Or by to get some angry Texas comments.

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I think I've never been to Texas.

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I think Texas and California

have like between them have like

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10 or 11 of the biggest 15 cities

in the United States.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I mean, it's huge population base.

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So these companies like, I don't know,

let's say talkies was one of them.

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I don't know what companies

have these specific ingredients in them,

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in their product.

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Let's be careful there.

We don't know that talkies.

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We don't know that talkies.

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The legal team is a draft.

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Or taquitos.

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Do the same.

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They all say,

let's say, Nicholas Leary goes,

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home batch pizza rolls.

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Let's go there.

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Okay, okay.

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So how will this frito-lay's,

that one was actually cited as being one.

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Okay. Okay. That works.

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So Frito-lay's do they make

a totally separate packaging for Texas?

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I mean, the infrastructure to do

that seems simple.

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But when you're doing millions

and millions and millions of them,

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or do they put this warning label

on all of them that they're

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putting out in the United States,

which, from my own personal opinion,

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would be awesome

if all like those warning labels.

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What people don't realize is

when like a company like Google,

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they'll switch like one tiny thing

on their website and it'll make a huge

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difference, worth millions of dollars

or influencing millions of people.

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And it'll be like something

that's like ten pixels different,

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because the psychology.

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So if there are warning labels on it,

I could imagine

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millions

less of these products being being bought.

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I don't care that these companies

are selling them.

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I'm more interested that we as humans

aren't buying them and consuming them.

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I know that sounds kind of lopsided, but.

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Well, do you think?

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Yeah.

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I mean, right now

people are already eating them.

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Oh, yeah.

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You think that'll change human behavior if

that label does end up on the packaging?

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Yeah.

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You think it will not?

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Not 100%, but I could see like 20%. Sure.

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Or it could send people on to like,

okay, this warning sign.

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Like what?

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What else?

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You know, it could send them on

a, on a journey of, of health.

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And I could see that happening

for more than a few people.

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The way I interpreted this.

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So it's interesting

you're going the path way that you have.

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You're, you're it sounds like you're

working under the assumption that

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these companies will just shrug and say,

all right, let's put the warning

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label on there.

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I kind of took it as these companies,

but we can't put a,

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you know, not fit for human consumption

warning level on our food.

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Yeah. You know, that'll kill us.

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So I kind of took

it as it could lead to these,

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food processors changing their recipes.

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Maybe.

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But I think you,

you greatly underestimate.

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Well, but that's already

that's already happened in our lifetime.

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It happened with, trans fats.

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Yeah.

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You know, all sorts of stuff.

Used to have trans fats.

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And as a child of the 90s, and maybe

when I was old enough, I can tell you

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right now that a Little Debbie right now

ain't nothing compared to.

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What, a little, in 19. 94.

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Those are the good old days.

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What is a trans fat?

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It's just a made.

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It's just, manufactured, fat.

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Okay.

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So it doesn't occur in nature

that affected flavor in.

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At least that's

how I've understood it. So.

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So what's up with the whole thing of like.

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Yeah, the big companies paid

to blame everything on trans fat

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and not instead of sugar,

because sugar is the real goal.

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Well, they don't say trans fat,

they just say fat.

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So remember like, you know,

this is fat free or whatever labeling.

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Yeah, that was probably. A year ago.

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I was really little.

But I do remember it. Yeah.

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So that was that was

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in response to that.

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Like, oh man, I don't want to be fat.

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And that says this, this food has a lot of

fat in it, you know, like that.

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But that's not a direct correlation. Yeah.

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So Riley, you have any thoughts before.

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Well, I would just

I would say that my guess is

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they're they're going to change

ingredients.

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In the long term I don't see any you know,

everyone talks about brand now,

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you know, do you want to be the company

that sells food and says,

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this is not food on the front?

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You know, I'll just makes me feel like.

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Handling like chemicals, you know? Yeah.

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Like when you're handling,

like, let's say, herbicide or something,

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you'll see a warning label

on there of some kind that tells you,

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hey, don't drink this

or don't get this in your eyes.

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I mean, you're now taking food

and almost putting it in the same.

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Yeah, it's

no longer in the category of food.

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It's almost in like this.

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Yeah. Weird consumption category.

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I agree. With you.

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Well, I think that that it will lead to,

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And I'm very.

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Maybe I'm just too optimistic here, but

I think it will lead to a change in, So.

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So I guess you're probably right.

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I'm thinking, like, first

the warning labels will show up,

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then you will start to care about it,

then they'll change that.

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Yeah. My guess on on how it all.

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But, so, could happen.

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Yeah.

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I also think more than we think it does

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right now,

this has giant ramifications for farmers.

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If any time

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you make a major change in the food

supply,

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farmers will be impacted for either

good or bad, you know?

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And I could see this causing a big push in

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and more healthy and,

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organic and certified,

naturally grown, like Jill Bibeau

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and some of those farmers

I, they couldn't handle.

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Not in an insulting way.

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But like, if there was immediately

a 40% increase in their stuff

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being bought,

like they're just went, right. Yeah.

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You know, and so,

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I could see that

being a really good thing,

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maybe even people ripping out

corn and beans because they found out,

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oh, I can make a lot of money

selling broccoli and tomatoes.

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Yeah. No,

I think that would be really cool.

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Just just the like

it may seem a tiny difference,

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but like, on the whole,

on the whole supply chain,

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I'm excited

for some of the big ones that they have

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that are requiring is red

40 is, the most popular one.

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But then like for which is a preservative.

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And, they said agents

like titanium dioxide.

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And I thought about

I should look into what agents are.

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And then I didn't.

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Did the the paper,

the paper is multiplied.

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Yeah, yeah.

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So, you guys have any idea what that is?

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I think it's just an active chemical.

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So it's something that.

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It's a chemical that's been added

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to create a certain effect

within the overall compound.

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Either coloring or some sort of preserve

preserving action, maybe.

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Yeah.

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I think this is good news.

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And I'm like our, our,

our resident libertarian.

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Leave me alone. Don't make rules. But,

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you know, it's it's like a

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I compare a lot of things to companies,

but it's like a company who rips off

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its first few customers

to make a few more dollars and then,

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but then its reputation

is absolutely crap,

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and so it falls to the wayside.

It can't last.

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That's basically

what feeding your own population,

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your own market, like the people

who buy your stuff over and over again.

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That's what feeding them garbage is.

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Yeah, it's not going to make a difference

this quarter or maybe even this year.

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In fact, it might even increase stuff

because of addiction and things like that.

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But there's going to be a push back.

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And I think this is the push back.

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And now all these companies aren't

set up for the healthier products, right?

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The healthier products that are coming.

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And that's why there's these giant brands

being made like Clif Bar,

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which is basically a candy bar, but

a little healthier, you know what I mean?

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So just those incremental healthy things.

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But there's a second big piece

of this bill

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and it's, it's education.

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So physical, 30 minutes

of physical activity a day for schools,

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not like 90 minutes every 2 or 3 days,

at least 30 minutes a day.

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And then nurses are required

to take nutrition classes and,

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or I believe all colleges have to offer

nutrition classes.

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I think was the, the other big one,

but it was like, oh, and high schools

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have to offer like a nutrition

like a health science class,

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but specifically for nutrition and,

I think that's awesome like that,

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to get that

into the general, intelligence to have.

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Yeah, yeah.

I think a lot of times when you look at,

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yourself or

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others who, are unhealthy,

right, physically and healthy,

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you think it's like a willful, negligence

or or just even a choice.

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Yeah.

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I'm just gonna I'm

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going to eat poorly on purpose,

because that's what I like doing.

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And there's I'm sure

that is somehow the case,

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but I think a lot of it is just

people don't know.

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They don't they don't know

what good food is because it's so hard

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to come by anymore, and it's so easy

to come by stuff that's not good for you.

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And, a lot of times the stuff

that's not good for you is cheaper.

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A lot of times a day is a little better,

you know, because you're hitting,

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I mean, up front in some terrible film

on the roof of your mouth afterwards.

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Not so much, but but,

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There's there's a lot to it

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that I think is beyond

just people making poor choices.

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I think they need to be reeducated on to

this is what I need to have in my diet.

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And this is

what would make me feel better.

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And this is

what would make me live longer.

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Yeah, able to do more things

than I really care to do

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instead of,

just saying, oh, this is what you know,

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we get all of our suppers

from the frozen food aisle, you know.

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Yeah.

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Well, I mean, we're in the midst of,

food revolution.

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You look at the 70s and 80s,

it was all about value.

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How much can I get

for how little you know.

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And then that changed.

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You know, now we're talking about Whole

Foods and we're talking about, you know,

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how much can we save

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in medical bills by eating real food

instead of just

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something that shoots out of a factory

tube somewhere?

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Yeah.

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You know, you know, it's so much of

it was just like invention.

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Yeah. No.

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Oh, look,

you know, there's this TV dinners.

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Did you see what they came out

with? Oh, yeah.

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You see what hostess just came out with?

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They used to just have, zingers.

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Now they got, you

know, Ding Dongs or whatever, you know.

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Well, and and it was just like

it was in the celebratory way of.

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Look, I wonder what they're going

to come up with next.

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Yeah.

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And now and then also on top of that,

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compounding with that is,

oh, man, I, you know, I have no energy.

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I, I, you know, I feel blah all the time.

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Well they got this new medication

you know, so we constantly rolling down.

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Yeah.

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We're like but looking towards this

new invented thing to make it all better.

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But in reality the,

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the things that we need to feel better

were invented when the world was created.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And if you want. Any proof.

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Listen, in the last weeks, episode

with Kelly Fincher.

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Yeah, we got one episode.

Totally incredible.

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Yeah.

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When I was, we were sitting with Kelly,

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I was thinking to myself,

this is a guy who's going to.

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I don't want to jinx anything here,

but he's going to live

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a very long time

and be very active for a very long time.

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Oh, yeah, because you could tell

he was, like, older,

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but he was like filled with energy.

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He was like shaking the whole time.

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Yeah I bet, I bet you Kelly could just

get up and run a couple of miles.

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I don't know if he's a runner or not,

but just like looking at him

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he's just like he's very very weak,

very good health.

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Crawling

crawling out of the truck with my quick

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trip coffee,

I felt much more lethargic than he is.

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Yeah.

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He can, went home

and in his, dream journal,

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crossed out all of his dreams and goals

and just wrote.

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Kelly, can you tell me?

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Yeah. This is God.

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This is supposed to be. Kelly gets it.

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Oh, man.

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Well, I think this is a step

in the right direction.

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I think it would be cool

if Iowa did something.

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Something that Iowa is doing.

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Our good friend, Beth Hoffman,

she didn't ask me to share this.

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She's running a podcast.

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I believe it's with the Iowa Food

Coalition.

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Really great 15 minute episodes,

very well informed.

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It's very journalistic.

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So it's not interview style.

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It's a lot of information.

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Very quickly,

she does a good job of fleshing out,

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fleshing it out

and actually getting to the root of,

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so far what I've let's do is a lot of food

and politics and how they go together.

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But like Kelly said, like our agriculture

is driven by policy at this point.

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And so I'd love to separate it.

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But the only way you get a separate

your food consumption from policy

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is by having a really good garden,

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being part of a really good food hub

or something of the like.

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So we really appreciate you guys

and we will talk to you again next time.