Ep. 267 (Coffee Time) Texas vs. The FDA-- New Law Forces Warning Labels on Food Additives
It might seem like a long way from a government building in Austin, Texas to a field of native prairie, but they’re more connected than you think. What we choose to allow in our food has a direct link to the choices made on the farm. Better farming practices lead to healthier ecosystems, and it all starts with the soil.
This week, we’re talking about a new Texas law, SB 25, that forces a national conversation on food additives. We dig into why a law about grocery store labels matters for the future of American agriculture, land stewardship, and creating healthy habitats for all of us.
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Nick, if you had,
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give up your whole life
except for your wife right now
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and go and live in another place
and the entire planet
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live there.
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I mean, like you're going to have to find
a job or.
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Yeah, in your case,
start a Krusty Krab to.
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Where.
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Would it be?
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And I can't know anyone there.
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No. You can know somebody there.
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Oh, okay. Well,
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I've got family in Michigan,
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a bunch of family in Michigan.
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I'd love to be there.
Like you just settled right there.
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Nothing against you, Michigan, but,
I mean, it's not that far away.
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Redding, California.
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I think that's where I came from.
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And I love that place.
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But if I was picking a state
where, no one else, it could.
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Be another country.
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I think I'd pick Tennessee, I.
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Okay, another country would be cool.
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But, like, the amount of emotional effort
just to learn a new language
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while also having. To, like,
find a job and. Stuff.
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I think I picked Tennessee.
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Tennessee is a good choice, and that would
have been high on my list as well, but I
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and I could have this wrong.
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So fact check me.
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Always important fact check us by the way.
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True,
I, I had heard from somebody credible that
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Tennessee just got rid
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of their open field doctrine,
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which is what allows conservation
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officers to like, if they sense
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that there's poaching going on
or something or some some heinous crime
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against, nature, they can without without
like getting your permission,
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they can go on to private property
and make sure that,
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laws are being obeyed, which is important.
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It's an important law, right.
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Because otherwise
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the only place that would ever be enforced
to be on public land
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and, and the vast majority,
especially in a state like Iowa,
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here, the vast majority of wildlife exists
on private land.
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Just because most of our state is owned
is is own private land.
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But, in Tennessee, they probably have
more public, quite a bit more public land.
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Oh yeah. Because they've got the Smoky
Mountains.
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Right, right.
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But, but the eastern. Mountains.
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But anyways, I thought.
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That was an interesting thing,
you know, that could really,
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become a problem for the quality of their,
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wildlife, especially if,
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it becomes that hard for,
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law enforcement officers to, Yeah,
make sure people are,
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you know, it kind of undermines
the Lacey act is really what it does.
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah, too.
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Well, not I, I shouldn't say it that way.
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Not the Lacey act specifically, but,
like, in the spirit of the right,
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this idea of where we're,
we're legally managing
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for population health,
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these species, you know.
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Yeah, I, I,
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don't like that.
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And it's not a big enough reason
for me to not move to fix.
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Not worried about the deer
hunting. Though.
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Yeah, I really, I mean, I yeah.
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What about.
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I don't know.
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This about Tennessee,
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but it is a trophy whitetail state,
which is kind of rare
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because you really don't
see that much in the South.
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But they are a great.
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Well, but they're pretty I mean, I guess
they're I guess they're south.
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I don't I don't because I've spent a lot
of time in Georgia, Alabama and Tennessee.
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I see Missouri
as more southern than Tennessee.
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And they will.
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Also because Tennessee's so desirable
to go to that so much.
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You spent right there. Do you know what?
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You just like this all the South
there's so desirable to go there. Sir.
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Well those South great places. Yeah.
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Oh yeah. But,
I did have a friend. Oh, man.
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I, I'll just.
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I'll just tell a story.
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I had a friend who, lives in Alabama.
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He knew someone who shot her first name.
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Start with the letter C.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So the friend is Caleb,
but Caleb knows someone who shot
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a ginormous buck, and I'm like,
oh my goodness, dude.
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Like, tell me about it. Send me a photo.
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There was a 128.
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And I just had to be like, oh man, dude,
that's so cool.
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Like, that's always.
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It'd be like, you can flick your toes.
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That's not true. Why?
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To watch three of those
on my way to work this morning,
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though, right? Oh, man.
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I, I've never shot a 128
or anything bigger,
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so I don't want to take away,
but it was like.
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I mean, like,
it was a big deal to their town.
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It was, you know, at 128 in some places
in our country would be very impressive.
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Yeah.
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Just because of how limited opportunities
are. But.
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Well,
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welcome back to the Prairie
Farm podcast, coffee time Wednesday.
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I'm your favorite host.
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Nicholas Leary with your favorite co-host
and grandfather can be.
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Up. At favorite co-host to the co-host
and also our grandfather
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in spirit and the man always telling
us to follow our budgets.
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That's.
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Yeah, he's wearing one of those
t shirts. Right.
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You can't see it,
but it says follow your dreams.
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It's out.
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There. Now.
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Follow your budget.
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Get a real t shirt on, don't I?
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That I'm sure.
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Oh, man.
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You know what that's like?
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That's sort of like the 2005 era t shirts
where like that, right?
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Little phrases.
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That's
what I thought of in a recent episode
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where you're talking about throwaway
clothes, like t shirts and stuff that.
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Yeah, yeah, that.
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All they make, like,
weird phrases out it or whatever.
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Like, I woke up for this or.
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Yeah, the little like, cat.
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I'm over those sarcastic t shirts though.
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Like,
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I all I do is,
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yell at people and work hard.
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And I've already worked hard.
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Now, like, you're not going
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to get any human connection.
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So so last night. So.
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Okay, first of all,
I won't lie to you guys.
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We are recording this podcast
a day and a half later than we should be
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recording,
and we're going to get it up in time.
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We're we're behind.
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Kent has literally wrestled
equipment to the ground all day.
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Anything you could imagine
breaking down has broken down.
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Yeah.
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So we're going to skip straight
to our topic and next week
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we'll get to a question.
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We appreciate everyone
who is sending the questions.
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Please keep them coming.
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Social at the Prairie farm.com.
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You know what questions we haven't
really gotten is stuff about whitetail.
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Well a little bit about pheasant
but we really haven't.
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And I've been shocked about that.
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But I think it's
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because anyone who has a question
about whitetail goes straight to skips.
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Lie on. Your forum.
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And we don't. Blame
and I don't blame you. Yeah, you know.
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What's up.
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But so last night
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I ate taquitos for the first time
since I was in, like, fifth grade.
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You guys know what those are?
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Yeah. Wait, wait, wait.
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Taquitos are our Takis taquitos?
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Because Takis are the chips.
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Yeah, Takis are like, the,
like, Cheeto. Kind of.
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Okay, so taquitos are like the deep
fried little cigar, like.
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Yep, yep. Yeah.
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So what happened was my wife was.
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She smoked those like, well.
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I, I ate like six of them.
I'll tell you what.
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You're not supposed to eat them
because. Oh, my.
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I felt terrible after work. Yeah.
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So I'm not here to tell you
if you should or shouldn't buy them.
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I'll just tell you my experience.
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Monday night, my wife's going
grocery shopping
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because, like, I got to kiddos,
she's like, I haven't had them in forever.
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And she got, like.
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Queso with them and everything.
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So last night we're like, oh, we're gonna.
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It was like 1030.
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We just finished working on the basement
of our coffee shop.
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Taquitos. At 1030, there's a death and.
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Oh, we drink. Coffee at like five.
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And, coffee.
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It just boiling.
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Well, we had.
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We had a lot we had to work with,
like, insulation all night.
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So it was like we had to drink coffee
to get through the evening.
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Do you have Tums for dessert?
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No. You get me a smoothie.
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Kind. So.
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So we're like, oh, bus other taquitos,
and I get like six,
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and I'm like, oh, I don't feel good.
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I'm like, break it out.
The sweat sitting in the air conditioning.
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I don't wow, I need a shower.
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Oh, God.
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Oh. How do you still feel better.
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So I'm not saying those are connected
to our topic today,
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but our topic today is SB 25.
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What does that mean to you guys?
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Senate Bill 20.
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Five.
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Senate Bill
25 of what state can already knows Riley.
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Texas. Texas.
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I heard you guys
talking about it. I did it,
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So I could have played along.
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It'd be like.
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SB 25 has two major categories to it.
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One can actually put me on to this,
he said.
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I saw this Instagram post.
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But please, please, please.
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Make. Sure it's real.
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So I came with a bunch of sources
and it is in fact real for the most part.
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The post said.
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Like Texas is banning
these species are there or the.
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Species and we're tired.
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These ingredients
or they gotta put a warning label.
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It's not real.
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There really isn't.
Talk about banning them.
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It's just the warning label piece
and the warning is going to say warning.
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This product contains an ingredient
that is not recommended
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for human consumption
by the appropriate authority.
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In Australia, Canada,
the European Union and the United Kingdom.
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But go Texas.
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Legislature SB 20.
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Five. Wow.
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That is what.
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So that's what
they'll these companies want to put on.
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And just like Kent was saying,
the big talk is so this is happening 2027.
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It goes into effect January 1st.
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And if
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Texas is a
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huge market for these companies,
I mean, Austin, Houston,
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Dallas, Fort Worth,
what's the other one in far?
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Largely Hispanic, El Paso, El.
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Paso. Yeah, San Antonio.
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San Antonio. I mean.
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I think it's Corpus Christi.
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Christi big,
but a lot smaller than the other ones.
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It's it's like a tourist destination,
basically.
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There's so many huge cities in Texas.
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Or by to get some angry Texas comments.
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I think I've never been to Texas.
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I think Texas and California
have like between them have like
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10 or 11 of the biggest 15 cities
in the United States.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I mean, it's huge population base.
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So these companies like, I don't know,
let's say talkies was one of them.
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I don't know what companies
have these specific ingredients in them,
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in their product.
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Let's be careful there.
We don't know that talkies.
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We don't know that talkies.
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The legal team is a draft.
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Or taquitos.
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Do the same.
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They all say,
let's say, Nicholas Leary goes,
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home batch pizza rolls.
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Let's go there.
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Okay, okay.
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So how will this frito-lay's,
that one was actually cited as being one.
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Okay. Okay. That works.
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So Frito-lay's do they make
a totally separate packaging for Texas?
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I mean, the infrastructure to do
that seems simple.
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But when you're doing millions
and millions and millions of them,
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or do they put this warning label
on all of them that they're
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putting out in the United States,
which, from my own personal opinion,
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would be awesome
if all like those warning labels.
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What people don't realize is
when like a company like Google,
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they'll switch like one tiny thing
on their website and it'll make a huge
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difference, worth millions of dollars
or influencing millions of people.
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And it'll be like something
that's like ten pixels different,
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because the psychology.
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So if there are warning labels on it,
I could imagine
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millions
less of these products being being bought.
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I don't care that these companies
are selling them.
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I'm more interested that we as humans
aren't buying them and consuming them.
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I know that sounds kind of lopsided, but.
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Well, do you think?
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Yeah.
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I mean, right now
people are already eating them.
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Oh, yeah.
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You think that'll change human behavior if
that label does end up on the packaging?
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Yeah.
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You think it will not?
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Not 100%, but I could see like 20%. Sure.
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Or it could send people on to like,
okay, this warning sign.
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Like what?
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What else?
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You know, it could send them on
a, on a journey of, of health.
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And I could see that happening
for more than a few people.
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The way I interpreted this.
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So it's interesting
you're going the path way that you have.
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You're, you're it sounds like you're
working under the assumption that
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these companies will just shrug and say,
all right, let's put the warning
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label on there.
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I kind of took it as these companies,
but we can't put a,
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you know, not fit for human consumption
warning level on our food.
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Yeah. You know, that'll kill us.
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So I kind of took
it as it could lead to these,
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food processors changing their recipes.
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Maybe.
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But I think you,
you greatly underestimate.
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Well, but that's already
that's already happened in our lifetime.
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It happened with, trans fats.
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Yeah.
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You know, all sorts of stuff.
Used to have trans fats.
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And as a child of the 90s, and maybe
when I was old enough, I can tell you
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right now that a Little Debbie right now
ain't nothing compared to.
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What, a little, in 19. 94.
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Those are the good old days.
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What is a trans fat?
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It's just a made.
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It's just, manufactured, fat.
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Okay.
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So it doesn't occur in nature
that affected flavor in.
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At least that's
how I've understood it. So.
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So what's up with the whole thing of like.
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Yeah, the big companies paid
to blame everything on trans fat
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and not instead of sugar,
because sugar is the real goal.
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Well, they don't say trans fat,
they just say fat.
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So remember like, you know,
this is fat free or whatever labeling.
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Yeah, that was probably. A year ago.
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I was really little.
But I do remember it. Yeah.
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So that was that was
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in response to that.
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Like, oh man, I don't want to be fat.
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And that says this, this food has a lot of
fat in it, you know, like that.
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But that's not a direct correlation. Yeah.
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So Riley, you have any thoughts before.
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Well, I would just
I would say that my guess is
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they're they're going to change
ingredients.
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In the long term I don't see any you know,
everyone talks about brand now,
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you know, do you want to be the company
that sells food and says,
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this is not food on the front?
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You know, I'll just makes me feel like.
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Handling like chemicals, you know? Yeah.
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Like when you're handling,
like, let's say, herbicide or something,
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you'll see a warning label
on there of some kind that tells you,
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hey, don't drink this
or don't get this in your eyes.
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I mean, you're now taking food
and almost putting it in the same.
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Yeah, it's
no longer in the category of food.
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It's almost in like this.
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Yeah. Weird consumption category.
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I agree. With you.
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Well, I think that that it will lead to,
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And I'm very.
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Maybe I'm just too optimistic here, but
I think it will lead to a change in, So.
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So I guess you're probably right.
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I'm thinking, like, first
the warning labels will show up,
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then you will start to care about it,
then they'll change that.
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Yeah. My guess on on how it all.
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But, so, could happen.
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Yeah.
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I also think more than we think it does
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right now,
this has giant ramifications for farmers.
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If any time
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you make a major change in the food
supply,
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farmers will be impacted for either
good or bad, you know?
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And I could see this causing a big push in
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and more healthy and,
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organic and certified,
naturally grown, like Jill Bibeau
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and some of those farmers
I, they couldn't handle.
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Not in an insulting way.
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But like, if there was immediately
a 40% increase in their stuff
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being bought,
like they're just went, right. Yeah.
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You know, and so,
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I could see that
being a really good thing,
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maybe even people ripping out
corn and beans because they found out,
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oh, I can make a lot of money
selling broccoli and tomatoes.
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Yeah. No,
I think that would be really cool.
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Just just the like
it may seem a tiny difference,
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but like, on the whole,
on the whole supply chain,
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I'm excited
for some of the big ones that they have
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that are requiring is red
40 is, the most popular one.
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But then like for which is a preservative.
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And, they said agents
like titanium dioxide.
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And I thought about
I should look into what agents are.
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And then I didn't.
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Did the the paper,
the paper is multiplied.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So, you guys have any idea what that is?
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I think it's just an active chemical.
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So it's something that.
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It's a chemical that's been added
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to create a certain effect
within the overall compound.
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Either coloring or some sort of preserve
preserving action, maybe.
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Yeah.
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I think this is good news.
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And I'm like our, our,
our resident libertarian.
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Leave me alone. Don't make rules. But,
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you know, it's it's like a
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I compare a lot of things to companies,
but it's like a company who rips off
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its first few customers
to make a few more dollars and then,
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but then its reputation
is absolutely crap,
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and so it falls to the wayside.
It can't last.
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That's basically
what feeding your own population,
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your own market, like the people
who buy your stuff over and over again.
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That's what feeding them garbage is.
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Yeah, it's not going to make a difference
this quarter or maybe even this year.
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In fact, it might even increase stuff
because of addiction and things like that.
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But there's going to be a push back.
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And I think this is the push back.
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And now all these companies aren't
set up for the healthier products, right?
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The healthier products that are coming.
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And that's why there's these giant brands
being made like Clif Bar,
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which is basically a candy bar, but
a little healthier, you know what I mean?
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So just those incremental healthy things.
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But there's a second big piece
of this bill
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and it's, it's education.
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So physical, 30 minutes
of physical activity a day for schools,
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not like 90 minutes every 2 or 3 days,
at least 30 minutes a day.
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And then nurses are required
to take nutrition classes and,
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or I believe all colleges have to offer
nutrition classes.
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I think was the, the other big one,
but it was like, oh, and high schools
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have to offer like a nutrition
like a health science class,
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but specifically for nutrition and,
I think that's awesome like that,
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to get that
into the general, intelligence to have.
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Yeah, yeah.
I think a lot of times when you look at,
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yourself or
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others who, are unhealthy,
right, physically and healthy,
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you think it's like a willful, negligence
or or just even a choice.
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Yeah.
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I'm just gonna I'm
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going to eat poorly on purpose,
because that's what I like doing.
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And there's I'm sure
that is somehow the case,
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but I think a lot of it is just
people don't know.
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They don't they don't know
what good food is because it's so hard
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to come by anymore, and it's so easy
to come by stuff that's not good for you.
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And, a lot of times the stuff
that's not good for you is cheaper.
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A lot of times a day is a little better,
you know, because you're hitting,
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I mean, up front in some terrible film
on the roof of your mouth afterwards.
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Not so much, but but,
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There's there's a lot to it
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that I think is beyond
just people making poor choices.
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I think they need to be reeducated on to
this is what I need to have in my diet.
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And this is
what would make me feel better.
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And this is
what would make me live longer.
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Yeah, able to do more things
than I really care to do
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instead of,
just saying, oh, this is what you know,
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we get all of our suppers
from the frozen food aisle, you know.
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Yeah.
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Well, I mean, we're in the midst of,
food revolution.
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You look at the 70s and 80s,
it was all about value.
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How much can I get
for how little you know.
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And then that changed.
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You know, now we're talking about Whole
Foods and we're talking about, you know,
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how much can we save
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in medical bills by eating real food
instead of just
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something that shoots out of a factory
tube somewhere?
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Yeah.
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You know, you know, it's so much of
it was just like invention.
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Yeah. No.
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Oh, look,
you know, there's this TV dinners.
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Did you see what they came out
with? Oh, yeah.
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You see what hostess just came out with?
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They used to just have, zingers.
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Now they got, you
know, Ding Dongs or whatever, you know.
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Well, and and it was just like
it was in the celebratory way of.
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Look, I wonder what they're going
to come up with next.
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Yeah.
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And now and then also on top of that,
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compounding with that is,
oh, man, I, you know, I have no energy.
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I, I, you know, I feel blah all the time.
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Well they got this new medication
you know, so we constantly rolling down.
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Yeah.
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We're like but looking towards this
new invented thing to make it all better.
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But in reality the,
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the things that we need to feel better
were invented when the world was created.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00;22;02;04 - 00;22;03;18
And if you want. Any proof.
00;22;03;18 - 00;22;07;04
Listen, in the last weeks, episode
with Kelly Fincher.
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Yeah, we got one episode.
Totally incredible.
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Yeah.
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When I was, we were sitting with Kelly,
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I was thinking to myself,
this is a guy who's going to.
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I don't want to jinx anything here,
but he's going to live
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a very long time
and be very active for a very long time.
00;22;21;01 - 00;22;24;07
Oh, yeah, because you could tell
he was, like, older,
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but he was like filled with energy.
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He was like shaking the whole time.
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Yeah I bet, I bet you Kelly could just
get up and run a couple of miles.
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I don't know if he's a runner or not,
but just like looking at him
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he's just like he's very very weak,
very good health.
00;22;36;08 - 00;22;38;08
Crawling
crawling out of the truck with my quick
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trip coffee,
I felt much more lethargic than he is.
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Yeah.
00;22;43;11 - 00;22;47;01
He can, went home
and in his, dream journal,
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crossed out all of his dreams and goals
and just wrote.
00;22;49;08 - 00;22;50;18
Kelly, can you tell me?
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Yeah. This is God.
00;22;51;21 - 00;22;53;16
This is supposed to be. Kelly gets it.
00;22;53;16 - 00;22;54;09
Oh, man.
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Well, I think this is a step
in the right direction.
00;22;56;23 - 00;22;58;24
I think it would be cool
if Iowa did something.
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Something that Iowa is doing.
00;23;00;23 - 00;23;03;14
Our good friend, Beth Hoffman,
she didn't ask me to share this.
00;23;03;14 - 00;23;04;21
She's running a podcast.
00;23;04;21 - 00;23;06;28
I believe it's with the Iowa Food
Coalition.
00;23;06;28 - 00;23;10;16
Really great 15 minute episodes,
very well informed.
00;23;10;16 - 00;23;12;09
It's very journalistic.
00;23;12;09 - 00;23;13;22
So it's not interview style.
00;23;13;22 - 00;23;15;17
It's a lot of information.
00;23;15;17 - 00;23;18;17
Very quickly,
she does a good job of fleshing out,
00;23;18;18 - 00;23;21;18
fleshing it out
and actually getting to the root of,
00;23;21;23 - 00;23;26;06
so far what I've let's do is a lot of food
and politics and how they go together.
00;23;26;06 - 00;23;30;18
But like Kelly said, like our agriculture
is driven by policy at this point.
00;23;30;25 - 00;23;32;09
And so I'd love to separate it.
00;23;32;09 - 00;23;36;24
But the only way you get a separate
your food consumption from policy
00;23;36;24 - 00;23;38;17
is by having a really good garden,
00;23;38;17 - 00;23;41;13
being part of a really good food hub
or something of the like.
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So we really appreciate you guys
and we will talk to you again next time.
